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	<title>Jan Wildeboer &#187; 2010 &#187; February &#187; 04</title>
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		<title>WRT FOSDEM Beer Event</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of comments on my last blog entry. Let me make some points clear before you all turn the flamewar to full force. FIRST I am NOT proposing you turn the beer event into a political demonstration. I do strongly &#8230; <a href="http://jan.wildeboer.net/2010/02/wrt-fosdem-beer-event/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of comments on my last blog entry. Let me make some points clear before you all turn the flamewar to full force.</p>
<p><strong>FIRST</strong> I am NOT proposing you turn the beer event into a political demonstration. I do strongly encourage you to go there to have FUN. That&#8217;s what I will do. I will be there. Wearing my Fedora. So if you want to flame me for what I say, let&#8217;s do it face to face.</p>
<p><strong>SECOND</strong> The fact that the developers working on the Android kernel parts seemingly (as pointed out by Greg Kroah-Hartman) have problems with upstreaming their patches is an alarming signal for the Linux community. I hope that Google shows us that I am wrong and they are willing to upstream their changes.</p>
<p><strong>THIRD</strong> My call for saying &#8220;No, Thanks&#8221; to the beer is a pun directing to RMS famous quotes on comparing free beer and free speech.</p>
<p>So in closing: <strong>Geez, peeps! FOSDEM is about having fun *and* exchanging opinions. We should have both. </strong></p>
<p>The unique opportunity that a lot of Open Source and Free Software minded people meet at FOSDEM could be a strong signal towards Google that we are there to *help* making things better.</p>
<p>So grab your beer, have fun and flame me if needed. If you want to throw your frustration and anger on me &#8211; fine. But I would prefer if you use that energy to get more Android patches upstream.</p>
<p>Deal?</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE</strong></p>
<p>This <a href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/905490/focus=907382">mail</a> shows you that Google wants to get stuff upstream but ATM (that was in october last year) is limited in doing so..</p>
<blockquote><p>We (Google) definitely want to get back in sync with mainline (as I&#8217;ve mentioned earlier in this or a related thread), and we&#8217;re planning on snapping up our kernel trees to 2.6.32+ once we get past various deadlines in the near future.</p></blockquote>
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